Monday, January 15, 2024

Part 14: Creating a draft for an Epic, Cosmic, and Spacey electronic track

We thought it might be time for something different!

Like with (most of) our other tutorials, it is based on a Chat Transcript with ChatGPT that shows these sounds were created in detail.

You know the drill by now, right?

Begin of Chat Transcript

User
Dear ChatGPT,
I worked with you on music in the past, and results were outstanding!
I want to work on a new track with you.
It should be an acid techno track.

It should be made up of various elements like melody, bassline, percussion and so on.
I will ask you to give me notes and pattern sequences for these elements step by step.
I will type these notes into my DAW then.
Later I put these various elements together (multi-track editing, so to say!), to create the full track.

The track should run at around 140 bpm.

But the first element should be the melody.
I want the track to have a special melody. It should be sad, melancholic, longing, dreamy, spacey, futuristic. but also give a sense of bliss and serenity. being bittersweet.
like the feeling one gets when one looks at the stars at night. cosmic longing!
it should be alluring and evoke powerful emotions among the listener.

What do you suggest, is it better to use chords or a melody? should the melody be made up of multiple parts (for example, 3 melodies, and various chords as well, making up a whole "melodic" experience)? or better keep it simple?
How long should the melody be, and how many notes should it incorporate?
Don't generate notes yet - consider these questions and aspects first, please.

ChatGPT
Hey there! Exciting stuff, diving into acid techno with a cosmic vibe. Considering your aim for a track that feels like gazing at the stars, I'd say go for a captivating melody that weaves a narrative. I'd recommend opting for a melody with multiple parts – it adds depth and emotion. Imagine it like chapters in a story, each part contributing to the overall cosmic longing.

In terms of length, aim for a melody that's long enough to develop the emotions but not too lengthy that it becomes repetitive. A good starting point could be around 16 bars, but it really depends on how you want the listener to experience that bittersweet journey.

As for notes, I'd suggest a balance between simplicity and complexity. Too simple might be forgettable, and too complex might be overwhelming. Introduce variations within the melody to keep it interesting. Also, consider the use of chords to add harmonic richness. You could start with a simple progression and gradually introduce more complexity.

Remember, the magic is in the details, so don't hesitate to experiment. Let your intuition guide you – after all, it's the emotions you want to evoke that matter the most.

Looking forward to crafting some stellar vibes together! πŸš€πŸŽΆ

[Note: In the end, the draft didn't turn out like acid techno at all. But that's usual with producing, that you eventually decide to go in a vastly different direction.]

User
okay, please give me notes for a 16 bar melody of this kind.

ChatGPT
Absolutely, let's sketch out a 16-bar melody for your cosmic acid techno journey. Given the emotions you're aiming for, we'll start with a simple yet evocative pattern. We're in the key of A minor, and here's a basic structure:

| A   E   G   F  | D   A   C   E  |
| F   G   A   C  | D   E   F   A  |
| A   E   G   F  | D   A   C   E  |
| F   G   A   C  | D   E   F   A  |

Feel free to adjust the rhythm and note lengths to fit the vibe you're going for. This is just a starting point, a canvas for you to paint your cosmic soundscape. Add bends, slides, or any other modulation to infuse that futuristic, spacey feel.

Remember, the key is to strike a balance between repetition and variation to keep the listener engaged. Play around with it, and let's see how this foundation feels for your track! 🌌🎡

User
can you also indicate the octave of each note

ChatGPT
Absolutely, let's add some octave information to guide you. We'll use numbers to represent octaves, with 4 being the middle C. Here's the revised 16-bar melody with indicated octaves:

| A4  E4  G4  F4 | D4  A4  C5  E5 |
| F4  G4  A4  C5 | D4  E4  F4  A4 |
| A4  E4  G4  F4 | D4  A4  C5  E5 |
| F4  G4  A4  C5 | D4  E4  F4  A4 |

Feel free to explore different octaves or tweak the melody as needed. This should give you a good starting point to infuse that cosmic, longing atmosphere into your track. πŸš€πŸŽΆ

User
is this melody in a major tuning?

ChatGPT
No, the melody I provided is in A minor, which is a minor key. The key signature and the choice of notes, including the presence of G natural instead of G# in the melody, indicate a minor tonality. This aligns well with the melancholic and bittersweet feelings you're aiming for in your acid techno track. If you want to maintain that cosmic longing and dreamy vibe, sticking with a minor key is a solid choice. Feel free to experiment further and tweak elements based on your creative instincts! 🎹🎢

User
could you generate some chords that could accompany this melody?

ChatGPT
Absolutely, let's create some chords to accompany the A minor melody. We'll use basic triads to keep it straightforward and build a harmonic foundation. Here are some chord progressions for the 16-bar melody:

| Am  | E   | G   | F   | Dm  | Am  | C   | E   |
| F   | G   | Am  | C   | Dm  | E   | F   | Am  |
| Am  | E   | G   | F   | Dm  | Am  | C   | E   |
| F   | G   | Am  | C   | Dm  | E   | F   | Am  |

Feel free to experiment with the rhythm and timing of the chord changes. This progression should provide a solid harmonic support to your melody. As always, trust your ears and make adjustments according to the vibe you're aiming for. 🎸🎡

User
an E chord implicates the use of E4 G#4 B4, right?

ChatGPT
Yes, you're absolutely right! An E major chord is typically composed of the notes E4, G#4, and B4. In the context of your chord progression, the E major chord (E) would include those notes. Here's a breakdown for reference:

| Am  | E (E4 G#4 B4) | G   | F   | Dm  | Am  | C   | E (E4 G#4 B4) |
| F   | G   | Am  | C   | Dm  | E (E4 G#4 B4) | F   | Am  |
| Am  | E (E4 G#4 B4) | G   | F   | Dm  | Am  | C   | E (E4 G#4 B4) |
| F   | G   | Am  | C   | Dm  | E (E4 G#4 B4) | F   | Am  |

This should align well with the mood you're aiming for in your cosmic acid techno track. Feel free to adjust or experiment further based on your creative instincts! 🎸🎢

User
but the notes G and A are already in this melody. wouldn't an G# clash with these?

ChatGPT
You raise a valid point. If you're concerned about potential clashes and want to maintain a more cohesive sound with the existing melody, you can modify the E major chord to an E minor chord (Emin), which would use E4, G4, and B4. This adjustment should complement the A minor melody without introducing a clash with the G# note. Here's the updated chord progression:

| Am  | Emin (E4 G4 B4) | G   | F   | Dm  | Am  | C   | Emin (E4 G4 B4) |
| F   | G   | Am  | C   | Dm  | Emin (E4 G4 B4) | F   | Am  |
| Am  | Emin (E4 G4 B4) | G   | F   | Dm  | Am  | C   | Emin (E4 G4 B4) |
| F   | G   | Am  | C   | Dm  | Emin (E4 G4 B4) | F   | Am  |

This adjustment should create a more harmonically consistent blend with your A minor melody. Feel free to play around with it and see how it fits with the overall vibe of your track. 🎹🎢

User
no, will keep it as it was. are there any other sharp notes in this chord progression besides the E chords?

ChatGPT
In the provided chord progression, the only instance of a sharp note is in the E major chord (E). The chord contains the notes E4, G#4, and B4. The other chords in the progression use natural notes. Here's a quick overview:

E major chord (E): E4, G#4, B4 (contains G#, which is a sharp note)
Other chords: Am, G, F, Dm, C (use natural notes)
If you're comfortable with the presence of G# in the E major chord and don't find it conflicting with your melody, then you're good to go. Feel free to experiment and trust your ears to ensure everything fits well in the overall sonic landscape of your track. 🎡🎢

[Time passes...]

User
I created a draft track with the melodic and harmonic elements we already created. I played a bit around with the sound and noted that at a slower speed, the pads and chords even sounded much more epic.
I added a 909 drum, crash cymbal, and snare to it (all at a slow speed) and starting jamming!
And this draft / jam already sounded really special and cool.
It's a bit like a mixture of your sonic input, some of my own ideas, and my jamming!
I decided to keep this recording, because I'm happy with it, and leave everything "at it is" for now.
Maybe some time in the future we can work on a new / extended edit of it.

ChatGPT
That sounds fantastic! It's awesome to hear that the combination of our ideas and your own creativity resulted in a special and cool draft. Keeping the recording and leaving things as they are for now is a great decision. It's always a good idea to let a track marinate for a while and then revisit it with fresh ears later on.

If and when you decide to work on a new or extended edit in the future, I'd be more than happy to dive back in and contribute to the creative process. In the meantime, enjoy the vibes of your current creation, and here's to more exciting musical journeys ahead! πŸŽΆπŸš€

End of Chat Transcript

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